Ep. 13: Robert Monroe’s Journeys Out of the Body

Hello, there:

My name is Edwin Romero and this is the Out of Office Chat where I talk about life outside the office. 

Today, I want to introduce Robert Monroe’s Journeys Out of the Body (affiliate). It’s a personal study into the out-of-body experience or OBE. 

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What is an out-of-body experience(OBE)?

An OBE is a phenomenon where an individual finds themselves separate from their physical body. They are fully conscious and aware of their surroundings and environment, but detached from their physical self (not to be confused with lucid dreaming). 

Now, I’ll be honest, guys:

I have been struggling trying to find out how to talk about this book, how to talk about the topic… And I’m just going to.

I mean, it’s a tough one because it’s a topic that requires an open mind. It also is a topic that isn’t publicly talked about, but something that really, a lot of folks actually, either believe or have experienced to some capacity. 

OBE experiences in my family

Over the last couple of weeks, I’ve been chatting with folks around the topic.

I’ve talked to one cousin, who is actively seeking out the experiences and he actually forwarded me a Reddit subreddit. And, for a lot of folks, it’s a practicing discipline. Folks actively engage in achieving it, and as well as advise on how to achieve it. 

A couple of weeks back, I ended up talking to another family member. A nephew on my wife’s side, and I had no idea that he also engaged in it! I don’t think on a regular basis anymore, but he has experience with it. 

And then I look at other folks in my family and they’ve undergone the symptoms of an out-of-body experience. 

The first step: the vibrational state

And just right off the bat, one of the initial experiences you encounter when going through the experience is vibrations. The vibrational state. 

I know I think I talked to one family member a while ago, and they always mentioned it, and I never really had much thought around it. But in the book itself, it shined a light into the significance of the vibrations. 

And I’ll be honest:

Before I even mention any part of the book, I’ve attempted to achieve that kind of vibrational state. I got really close like 2 or 3 weeks ago. 

It was pretty intense. Right when I began to feel the vibrations, I was like: “all right, let me leap out of my body!”. And apparently, you’re not supposed to do that. You’re supposed to stay mindful of the condition. You’re supposed to stay mindful of the state and have it happen more organically. 

I just wanted to jump right into it!

But, all That being said, there are some really great reports in this book. I won’t cover off all the reports. I actually just want to talk about Robert Monroe, and just a couple of his experiences. Just a couple of them. 

Robert A. Monroe: OBE explorer

Who is Robert A. Monroe?

Maybe I’ll deep dive into some of the other situations Robert finds himself in, but just a brief introduction on who Robert is. 

Robert studied at Ohio State, I think in the 1950s, maybe prior to then, but he graduated studying, I think it was, pre-med engineering, science and English. 

After graduation, he founded the company Ram Enterprises, where they produced radio broadcast shows. Things like quiz shows and dramatic shows for radio stations. They went on to file various patents for auditory devices. 

Robert A. Monroe. Source: Monroe Institute

Robert A. Monroe’s first approach to OBEs

He was really big on sleep learning, so learning material while you slept, and one of the biggest catalysts in his experiences was actually listening to an audio tape. 

So, he would say that there are two major events that occurred prior to him experiencing this on a regular basis:

The first one was when his family was away. His family was away at church and he sat down and plugged in his ears to an audio tape. And the audio tape was basically centered on focusing all your concentration on a single source. 

And that was the signal. And the signal was hearing. So basically other signals like seeing, tasting, smelling, all those were downplayed. And he did that for about an hour. 

After an hour or so, his family arrived, they had brunch, and he experienced a massive cramp above his abs. So much so that he began to ponder: okay, is this a heart attack? What am I experiencing? He began to regurgitate his food, thinking it was food poisoning. He took some medicine, it wasn’t helping. He exercised, he walked… 

Nothing was helping him and he just collapsed and went to sleep later that evening just from pure exhaustion. Next morning, everything was fine. 

Now, the only reason he calls this out is because, when attempting to examine the second major event, and what caused it, what were catalysts in the second major event, he noticed that the cramp was the only thing that popped out of him. Everything else was pretty darn normal. 

“He found himself immobile, almost like he was paralyzed. And he wasn’t able to hear anything based on the roaring of the vibrations”. 

Now with the second major event, it’s tough to explain:

So, he was positioned on his bed (again his family was away at church) and he was going down for a little bit of a nap, and his head was positioned towards the north, and out of nowhere, he felt a massive beam of light strike him in the head and envelop his entire body. 

When this occurred, several things happened simultaneously:

He began to violently shake or vibrate. He found himself immobile, almost like he was paralyzed. And he wasn’t able to hear anything based on the roaring of the vibrations. 

He was able to see his surroundings, but he wasn’t able to hear anything. So it freaked him out, and rightfully so. I mean, at that point when you can’t move, your body’s vibrating, you’re thinking you’re spazzing out. You might think that: “holy crap! I’ve gone paralyzed. I am going through some sort of seizure”. 

So he tried to fight it right away. And eventually he was able to get up, sit up, walk around… everything was normal. He had no loss of consciousness and he went for a walk. So it was a bit peculiar, and he didn’t mention it to his family. He didn’t want to freak anybody out. 

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And then again, over the next several weeks, it happened several more times, to the point where he began to worry that maybe it was epilepsy, maybe it was a brain tumor or growth. He went to a couple of doctors to feel it out, maybe it was something that can be done and his doctors came back and said: no, you’re perfectly fine, you’re totally fine. 

And one of his friends, who is Dr. Bradshaw, he was like: there’s nothing you can do but follow it. 

So Robert was like: it’s easy for you to say because you’re not going through it. It’s extraordinarily scary. 

And you know, that’s what I’ve heard about this phenomenon:

It’s scary. It’s very frightening. You’re not able to move. You feel weight on you. And in some cases you see things in the room. 

We might talk about that in a moment, but based on something that I had gone through, it does feel very intimidating. 

Delving deeper into the OBEs

So what Robert ended up doing was… he went back, based on the advice of his doctor, Dr. Bradshaw. He decided to follow through with it, and he was able to achieve the vibrational state again. 

This time he followed through with it for approximately 5 minutes. And, after the 5 minutes with the vibrations coming in, him not hearing anything, him not being able to move… 

After 5 minutes he noticed: well, there’s nothing really harming me right now. There’s nothing really permanently damaging me. So it made him feel a lot easier, a lot more comfortable. But it still kind of freaked him out. 

He hadn’t told his family out of fear of warning them. So at one point he decides to stick with it even longer. He began to see sparks illuminate in front of him. It encircled him. It started at his head, worked its way down to his feet, and moved back up again. 

This time he was able to hear a little bit better, but when the sparks were away from his ears. When they approached his ears it’s when it began to get louder and louder. 

He kept at this for a while. He even went back to Dr. Bradshaw and was like: what is happening? I kind of wanted to stop now. 

Dr. Bradshaw, honestly, he just recommended to him: have you looked into any kind of eastern philosophies? Robert really couldn’t make out what he was getting at or why he would have to look into eastern philosophies. Bradshaw basically said that in the West, you’re not going to find any text around this. or what you’re going through. 

But people in his, I guess, fellows that he works with, the doctors, have stated that they’re able to achieve what he’s going through, which leads to out-of-body experiences, and return back just fine. They’re covered pretty heavily in Eastern philosophies. 

So I looked it up as well. 

I wanted to see whether or not it was covered in Eastern philosophies, and it looks like it’s covered in Hinduism. I think it was Taoism and… I forget another religion in the Orient. I mean, that might be Taoism. That might be Taoism. I’m not sure.

Robert A. Monroe’s first OBEs

So, with that, several weeks passed, and at this point, it got kind of boring. Robert was like: all right, well, I’m kind of tired of this already. I don’t want this to happen anymore, but he got used to it. 

He found that if he just went through the vibrations, they would subside eventually. 

So, one evening he was going through the vibrations, laying down. He was half asleep, kind of, like almost in a daydream state. You know, not fully asleep, not fully awake, just right in the middle. He was playing around with something on the floor, it was his rug. 

He felt the texture of it and he pushed against it, kind of like, not excitedly, kind of unenthusiastically. Noticed: oh! Okay, well, my hand’s going through that. That’s weird. 

So he kept pushing against it and he felt wood chips, he felt piping, he felt basically material, and he pushed even further and he felt what would be the top of the ceiling from the bottom floor. 

And as he went farther and farther, he began to feel water, and he splashed with his hands, again, unenthusiastically, like it really didn’t matter. It kind of dawned on him that he shouldn’t be able to be feeling water. 

He shouldn’t be able to have felt the floor, at least not to the capacity he did. He basically went through the floor. And it scared the crap out of him. 

With the thought of not being sure of what would happen to his arm if the vibration stopped and his arm was caught in the middle of the floor, he pulled it out, yanked it out, he began to examine his arm, make sure it was all there. He began examining the floor to make sure there wasn’t a hole left over… and everything looked fine. Everything looked okay. 

He continued on with the vibrations. At one point he was laying down next to his wife, and he was in that state again: 

He wasn’t fully awake. He wasn’t fully asleep. And he thought to himself: how nice would it be to take my glider out tomorrow?

As he thought that, he felt a nudge on his shoulder as he was laying on the bed. He felt around and he felt the wall and he thought: how peculiar is it that I felt the wall? And at first he thought, maybe I fell off the bed. I fell off the bed and now I’m on the floor. 

“He thought that the vibrations were killing him. He didn’t want any part of it anymore.”

As he began to feel around the wall, try to make sense of what was happening, there was no windows, there weren’t any doors, any furniture… at least not where he thought they should be. And it dawned on him that he was on the ceiling. 

So he looked down and he found two bodies on his bed:

On the left-hand side was his wife, but on the right hand side, he couldn’t make out who it was. As he looked closer, he realized it was him. Right away he freaked out again. 

He thought that the vibrations were killing him. He didn’t want any part of it anymore. So he jumped right into his body, he woke up, got up from the bed, walked around in his room, lit a cigarette, and as he claims, it took him a while to fall back asleep again. 

So based on the advice that Dr. Bradshaw gave him, he began a deep dive into various texts (and we’ll talk about that in a moment). 

But he was a little bit at a crossroad. You know, everything that Robert has studied, everything that he knows about science and medicine, says that he shouldn’t be able to do this. 

He didn’t want to, he didn’t believe it based on his upbringing, his education, and two, if he did begin to believe in the out-of-body experience, it would basically shatter everything he’s known up to that point. 

So he was a little conflicted, but he wanted to make sure that science was able to shed light on that that’s undiscovered. 

Robert decides: let’s give it a shot. Let’s deep dive into these texts that Dr. Bradshaw recommended, and let’s see what answers we can find.

And what Robert discovers is that there is a whole population of individuals that not only believe in this, but that can perform this. That have written about it to a degree. He refers to this population as the underground. 

The Underground

The underground, he says, is comprised of millions of individuals across the globe, that they only engage with other members, but it’s highly disorganized. And, coincidentally, members meet each other. It’s not planned. It’s almost as if they gravitate towards one another. And I will say this, I find that to be extraordinarily true. 

I find that, especially recently, I’ve been having conversations with individuals that believe in some of this stuff to some capacity. 

So, to Robert’s point, members do find each other to some some degree. I guess the other way to look at it is that this topic itself It’s so widely believed to the point where a lot of folks believe in it, and they just don’t talk about it. 

So, as Robert begins to deep dive into what the underground is, he finds that it’s comprised of various individuals, from various walks of life, from various disciplines, from people who can leave their body, to psychics, to palm readers, to folks that organize conferences, folks that write books, resources, magazines, host online sites… They just, it goes on and on and on. 

But Robert was really keen on understanding what it is that he was going through: OBE. How can he control it better? 

And all of this goes back to his upbringing. You know, I think he approaches it as scientifically as he could through experiments. He wants to do experiments on it, but first he wants to understand what has been done so far. 

He finds, even through the underground, that no one’s written about it. There are a lot of folks that reference it, that talk about their experiences, but no one outlines in an experimentation format. 

He discovers that the underground and the population at large can actually benefit from his understandings, from his experiences. And that’s when Robert decides to catalog all his out-of-body experiences and report on them. 

So that’s what this book is about. This entire book is basically a catalog of his experiences. 

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Robert’s reports on OBEs

They’re all divided up into varying chapters. The first chapter about out-of-body experiences is basically just some of the more significant reports he brought to (I guess, I don’t know what they would call them) a group of scientists that were basically grilling him about the experience. It was half-heartedly accepted. The other half was really skeptical about it, almost condescending. But he began to present some of the findings. 

The first report

His first report, that he talks about, was that he was attempting to visit Dr. Bradshaw as he understood that Dr. Bradshaw was at home sick with a cold. So, at this point, he was able to better control his out-of-body experiences, almost willfully. So he laid down for an experiment. 

He laid down and he told himself, I want to go see Dr. Bradshaw. He left his body and he found himself going uphill. As he was heading towards Dr. Bradshaw’s home, he noticed that there was a cloaked figure going uphill. 

This individual was seated with his legs and arms crossed, almost like a monk style. He didn’t pay any more attention than that, and he continued to go uphill. 

At a certain point, Robert felt extraordinarily tired, as if all the energy was drained from him and he wasn’t going to be able to make it uphill. The moment he had that thought, he felt two hands pull him by his underarms and basically string him up uphill. 

He finds himself over Dr. Bradshaw’s property. He sees Dr. Bradshaw and his wife walking to what appears to be their garage, but it wouldn’t make any sense because he was sick. So he anticipated him being in bed.

Now, he notices that Dr. Bradshaw calls out to him in his, what they call, astral self, his astral form. He says: I guess you don’t need me anymore. And then at that point, Robert feels as if his experience was validated. He decided to end the experiment, and he did. 

He woke up, and that evening he called Dr. Bradshaw. He asked him what they were doing that evening. Dr. Bradshaw explains that he got tired of being in bed and that he went with his wife to town to pick up some stuff (I’m not sure… supplies or something like that), and that he was wearing a specific type of clothing. 

Now, the clothing Robert says that his wife was wearing (I believe it was black, a black overcoat), and what Dr. Bradshaw was wearing (a light overcoat). Both of which were confirmed by Dr. Bradshaw. 

It was a slight experience, but it was one of the first reports that he calls out. 

And I think it’s significant because it shows that Robert has a specific mentality when looking at these reports:

He no longer talked about the cloaked figure, nor did he talk about who would have lifted him up. I like that because he’s as objective as possible. He didn’t speculate. 

Secondly, he wanted to visit Dr. Bradshaw because he felt as if he was going to find him in his bed, in his room. And if so, he was able to describe certain aspects of his room that he can use as validation for his experiences. 

A second report

In another experiment, Robert wanted to go visit his friends, Mr. and Mrs. Banson. 

And when he began his out-of-body experience, he found a few things:

First, his mind or his conscience went straight to a young man walking on a sidewalk, with him throwing a baseball up in the air. 

Then that immediately shifted to Dr. Bantz’s garage, where he saw Dr. Bantz inserting a smaller car into a bigger car. The smaller car was awkwardly shaped, had wheels and a motor. 

And then, lastly, his last experience in that session was shifted towards the family at the dinner table, with dishes on the table, and them playing cards. So he wakes up, he gives them a call and he tries to see what they were all doing. Mr. Banson says that he was actually trying to push in their generator, into their car, to take it to a different location. 

Robert says that there’s no really no way of him knowing that he would have been doing that that morning. They asked about the young man who happens to be Mr. And Mrs. Banson’s son. They asked him what he was doing that morning and he said that he was going off to school. 

But they specified: well, what were you doing on your walk to school? And he mentioned that he was throwing a baseball up in the air and catching it. 

And then, he said that he saw all of them playing cards at the table,a nd Mrs. Banson got really excited because, she states that: we all were late waking up, and we had a late breakfast. We were all at the dinner table eating, and I gathered all the mail that we had, and was passing it out to all the individuals at the table. 

Robert in the book tries to clarify whether or not certain things can be validated. 

Maybe subconsciously he knew about certain aspects, like the boy going off to school. It was morning, It would make sense that he was going off to school, but there’s no way he would have known that he was playing baseball, although he could assume it. 

There was less of a chance of Robert knowing that Mr. Banson was putting a generator inside of his car, and just as much chance he wasn’t going to know that they were passing out mail at the dinner table. 

So I thought it was pretty intriguing. These are just 2 reports, and the book goes on and on. 

I think the next part, I want this to serve as an introduction because there’s just so many darn good stories in this book.

But the next 3 chapters in this book cover off well the 3 Environments that Robert finds himself in.

The 3 Locales of OBEs

So Robert states that every time he has an out-of-body experience, he typically finds himself in one of 3 environments: Locale 1, Locale 2 and Locale 3.

All serve different purposes. 

He has names for all of them. 

Locale 1: The here and now

Locale one, he calls the here and now and that’s basically this environment. 

This, I guess, you might be able to call it this universe, where he’s able to exit his body and see folks in his life. 

Locale 2: Infinity and eternity

Locale 2 he references as infinity and eternity. This one is an interesting one because he goes on to state that you have to leave all your concepts of physics and reality at the door. That this environment doesn’t function how we’re used to our reality functioning. 

“There is a time where there’s just a massive ring, a massive bell that rings out to what appears to be all of reality, and everything stops.”

In this world, he describes how they describe God, how they perceive God. And everything is just so darn natural, although peculiar. 

He tries to discern: what is God? Do they believe in God? But he noticed that on multiple trips to to this locale, infinity-eternity, that there is a time where there’s just a massive ring, a massive bell that rings out to what appears to be all of reality, and everything stops, and then something hovers above all the population, and everyone gets down, shows their belly towards the sky, and as this (I guess) entity goes past them, they all get up. 

And it’s almost as if it’s so natural, it’s so normal, that there’s really no reason to question it. I think that’s pretty intriguing. He states that individuals might be able to chalk their near-death experiences as taking place in this environment, as it’s the closest that individuals can get to heaven. 

He even states that he had trouble coming back once he visited infinity-eternity. He didn’t want to leave, but he was honestly urged to. 

Locale 3: Reverse image

Now locale 3, he calls reverse image. It begins pretty darn scary. He’s basically thrust into what would be oblivion right as he leaves his body and it’s just black mass infinitely ahead of him. 

He mentions that he’s extraordinarily scared to follow through with it. But eventually he gets to the other side of the black mass and he finds this planet. He finds Earth. He finds everything that you would find here, except there are some subtle differences and some not so subtle differences. 

Everything looks normal but the one thing that gave away the reality was that the vehicles themselves aren’t the vehicles in our reality:

In our reality, we have vehicles that’s 2 rows and then 2 columns. So, there is the driver, the passenger, and the folks behind them in a second row. 

Whereas in this reality, there is just one row, but there are 7 seats for that one row. 

Additionally, he mentions that in this reality, they appeared as if they weren’t running on gasoline or any kind of fuel like we know it, but it appeared as if they were running on some sort of radiation. 

Now, as Robert became more accustomed to locale 3, he found himself actually taking the body in the form of another individual. He mentioned the moment that he began to take this individual’s consciousness he really had no recollection of what this individual was going through. 

Basically he would swap in and just start living his life not knowing the circumstances of his life, until he began to play it all out once he was in this reality, once he was in locale 3. 

And I felt so bad because throughout the entire chapter he talks about this individual, how he was dating somebody, how they got married, how he adopted her children, and how he basically separated from her. 

But, to me, it sounded as if Robert was the reason why they separated because he would come in and his wife in the other reality would freak out that he would lose consciousness and not know who her husband was.

So, Robert’s a homewrecker, if you ask me, in this locale. It’s a pretty good chapter. 

Entities in OBEs

As the book progresses (I won’t go all into everything that he covers because there’s just so much) Robert talks about archetypes, talks about entities, talks about spirit beings, talks about non-physical things happening in his room, or being placed in his room to the point where it’s almost like harassment, it’s violent. 

“All of a sudden he was violently attacked, as if something was out to just kill him. He was in his astral self, and it was violently attacking his astral body”.

Oh! It’s very scary! I was reading it, and I was like: maybe I shouldn’t be reading this before bed. It’s going to freak me out. 

But Robert’s approach is: I need to figure out what this is. I need to understand it, and I need to report on it. 

So for example, at one point, Robert found himself out of his body in his room. All of a sudden he was violently attacked, as if something was out to just kill him. He was in his astral self, and it was violently attacking his astral body. It was throwing him around the room, trying to literally obliterate Robert. So Robert likens this to: I’m in fight mode now, I’m in survival mode. 

Like, there are things where you can watch and you can wait and see how things progress, but in this case, he had that sudden urge: I’m going to die or I’m going to kill this thing. 

So he fought it, the best he could, and he even said he fought it for what seemed like a couple of hours, in his room, and eventually he willed himself back into his body and woke up. 

Earlier I mentioned that Robert found himself being pulled uphill to Dr. Bradshaw’s by an entity, by a being. Robert says that on multiple occasions he found certain types of support from other entities. 

He likened it to angels, or it may have been confused with angels from biblical texts. In some cases if he wasn’t able to get up, he felt arms and hands grab him, and lift him up to his destination. Again, Robert does this objectively. He doesn’t try to examine it. The only time he tries to examine it is probably correlated back to some sort of biblical reference. 

Sexual appetite in OBEs

Additionally, in this book, there’s a whole chapter dedicated to sexual appetite in this astral form. 

Robert says it’s so significant to overcome that sexual drive, that sexual appetite, because, once you’re in that state, or when you’re attempting to get in that state, you have to be extraordinarily focused, and any small thought can creep in, and lead you astray. 

One of the strongest urges, I would say, as in the human species, is our sexual drive. He’s had to overcome the sexual drive to perfect getting out of his body. 

Even perfect is a strong word, if I’m being honest. 

Perfecting. He says he’s able to do it a lot easier, but perfecting the out-of-body, he’s not a perfectionist. 

“When you’re attempting to get in that state, you have to be extraordinarily focused, and any small thought can creep in, and lead you astray”.

Now, you’re probably wondering:

Did Robert have a couple of sexual encounters in his astral body?

And he said he actually did, but the way he made it sound is:

The sexual drive isn’t how it’s viewed today through our society. He says that the sexual drive is more like a feeling, where you have that feeling or that chemistry or that attraction and magnetism with an individual, and it comes off like a sexual attraction.

But he says that in his astral self, not only is it more pronounced, but depending on the locale, its definition is much different. 

In one instance, he leaves his body, and he’s in his room, and he finds a figure in there, who has kind of that womanly energy, and he knows that they want to engage at a sexual level. 

But he’s very hesitant.

For one, being at one of his first experiences, I mean, in the astral self. He doesn’t want to be a cheater, for one. 

He doesn’t want to be trifling. And he also doesn’t really know what can happen, you know, get an astral STD. He doesn’t know the ramifications of engaging in this kind of activity in the astral plane.

In another experience, Robert says that he was in locale 2, I believe, and he went ahead and he joined a group of individuals (it was approximately 7 to 8 individuals).

He was looking around them, again, all in their astral selves. They looked at him, and was approached by a form, which was carrying female energy. And it’s almost as if they zapped each other in the head. He knew at that point: okay, well, that was that sexual energy that we just exchanged. 

Then all the other members of the group went ahead and zapped him in that same fashion, exchanging the sexual energy. It was like a… It was like a… Oh my goodness! 

It was like an astral orgy. 

So that’s to the degree that Robert talks about the sexual drive. 

There are some other cases in here, and he does a really great job in elaborating why the sexual drive is such a significant component to being in your astral self. 

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Wrapping up

The book basically wraps up with him giving guidance on how to separate from your physical body. It’s pretty good instructions, I think it could be better, but there are a ton of subreddits out there, a ton of good material out there, but he goes on to explain a few methods. 

I won’t cover them all for you here, but give it a look, or even look online and see what you find. 

The last couple of chapters… I just… I’ll be honest:

I could not get through. 

Editor’s note: I can’t believe it

The last couple of chapters were just very thick. They were his analyses, some stats, and stuff that wasn’t really all that engaging. I read a couple of pages, but I was like: all right, I think I got everything I need from this book. 

So, I mean, with that, I’m sure there’s a ton of stories I missed. 

I really did enjoy this book. I had a really good time. I bought it. I got it from the library, but I liked it so much, I ended up buying it from Amazon. 

And I am practicing a lot of stuff that he’s recommending. 

One of the things he recommends is self-hypnosis. 

So, to get into that kind of sleepiness, that half awake, half asleep phase, he recommends doing self-hypnosis. 

I downloaded an audio book on self-hypnosis, and immediately I started listening to it as I was driving, and the first thing that the book says is do not operate heavy machinery or drive as you’re listening to this book, so I had to stop. 

As far as my experiences go, I’ve gotten to the vibrational state a couple of weeks back. It was pretty surreal, I was so excited. I just was not able to get myself out of it. And you feel it though, you really do feel when you’re getting to that point. 

It’s almost as if Your body is very heavy, but it makes sense. It makes a lot of sense why your body would be heavy. It’s a practice where you have to ensure that there’s a fine balance, where your mind is fully awake, and your body is asleep. 

Additionally, I’ve talked to other folks in my circle:

One of my wife’s nephews, he’s gone through it and he was nonchalant about it. He’s like: yeah, I’ve been through it. 

I was like: okay, well, tell me more. 

And, what’s crazy is when you were talking to people that might be slightly interested in the topic, that’s one thing. But when you’re talking to somebody who’s actually experienced the phenomenon, that’s totally different. 

And this individual, he was calling out or referencing certain parts of the experience that were totally covered, not just in Robert’s book, but things I’ve heard on my own. Like the vibrational state was a big one. The feeling pressure on top of you was another. Robert himself explains, or at least speculates, what that pressure on his body is. 

I won’t spoil it here, but it’s a good read. 

What’s also very interesting is some of the stuff that Robert recommends on getting into the out-of-body experience, is kind of sending intentions, as well as being mindful, being present. You know, again, because you have to not have anything kind of get in your way mentally, emotionally. 

Now, I know this sounds like lovey-dovey and whatnot, but, you know, I have been practicing more mindfulness, so it’s really serendipitous that a lot of the books I’ve been reading recently are all kind of tying in together. 

Robert has written a couple of more books. Far Journeys is his second book, and The Ultimate Journey is his third book.

From what I’ve read, the last book is an attempt for Robert to try to figure out, or try to find his wife. She had passed away at that time.

Now, that’s really all I want to go through on today’s session, today’s episode. It was a really great book, super easy read. I really enjoyed it. 

Again, I wasn’t Intending to pick this up. I think in my last episode I said I wanted to get away from like some of the some of the more spiritual stuff, but this one is definitely a spiritual book, but it’s not around philosophy, it’s around experience, which is really neat. And he does attempt to do it objectively. 

Have a read. Pick it up from the library. It’s really great. 

Well, that’s it, folks. I mean, that’s kind of what I’ve been doing over the last couple of months: 

Trying to perfect my out-of-body experience. 

You know, my wife asked me why do I want to learn how to leave my body?

I guess what you can extrapolate is: why do I want to read some of this material? And a part of me is like, you know, like… I think our reality is much bigger. I really do think that. I think the physical is just one aspect of it. 

But this here, it’s an avenue where I’ve already been tinkering over the last 15 years, and it’s nice to put some words to some of the experiences that I’ve come across. And I don’t really know. I mean, I’m just curious. 

I think everyone talks about the stuff that is tangible, the stuff that is physical, but a lot of folks are not as eager to share the non-physical, I guess the spiritual aspect of our reality. So take that for what it’s worth. 

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